@annasara I use and enjoy Manjaro and use i3 Gaps on my personal laptop. I don't use it allday every day though because my work laptop is Windows (no choice, although I spend a lot of time (as much as I can) using WSL).
@annasara what kind of problems did you encounter in Pop? I've been on Pop for years and can't imagine switching to anything else on my main productivity rigs.
@chanon The boot partition is too small, and old kernels are not removed automatically and have to be done manually which is annoying. And the latest update failed had and apt broke. I have not had these problems with previous distros.
@annasara ah, did you dual boot on a previously partitioned disk? The pop installer makes like a half gig ESP, but Windows and lots of other OSes are like 250mb. Pop munches that up in a jiffy since it uses systemd-boot.
Apt can definitely be a hassle too, but I've probably grown accustomed to quarreling with it.
Anyway, I've heard a lot of hype about Nix lately. They just released a new installer, so that might be pretty fun to check out.
@annasara Well, I distro hopped for many years and ended up with Pop OS. But if Pop OS is giving you trouble, maybe try Ubuntu. Or there is Zorin OS which is also very windows like
@annasara EndeavourOS is a great Arch-based distro and what I currently run on my gaming PC. However, if you need something a bit on the user friendly side, Manjaro might be a better choice.
@annasara What kinds of problems are you having with pop OS? Is it drivers for the hardware or is it some other kind of issue?
@ordabchao The boot partition is too small, and old kernels are not removed automatically and have to be done manually which is annoying. And the latest update failed had and apt broke. I have not had these problems with previous distros.
@annasara @ordabchao Yes, that's also something I found very annoying with Ubuntu.
If you're already familiar and comfortable with Linux then openSUSE is great. YaST make many admin tasks much easier and the tight integration of btrfs+snapper make system rollback very easy if something ever breaks.
Leap for stability, Tumbleweed for rolling release.
If you don't want to jump the deb-ship, Linux Mint is IMHO a pretty useable Ubuntu-Derivative (also no snaps!) 👍😀
@stoerdebegga @selea @annasara I have a recommendation for everyone. You don't have to follow this of course. But I am acquaintances with a guy named Jay. He has a YouTube channel called LearnLinuxTV. He has taught me a lot of stuff. He routinely gives full on manual installation tutorials of almost any flavor. In these tutorials he cover manually creating partitions -frequently.
I have heard good things about fedora - maybe I'll move over some day.
But after 18 years with some Debian-derivative, I am afraid xD
@annasara As a GNOME lover I can recommend Fedora Workstation because of pure, synergistic experience. It isn’t perfect, but personally I’ve came across least problematic situations using this distribution out of Ubuntu and PopOS
I was using Solus Budgie edition on our old laptop because I had issues while using Pop_OS! on it. Later I switched to a newer laptop where I use Pop and my fathrr took that laptop. He very very very occasionally asks for help.
Now I think about it, he might think that it is just a bit nicer looking Windows computer.
@murtezayesil Maybe my computer is just getting old.
I like the look of PopOS. And when you say it you could say that it looks like a bit nicer looking Windows computer. Good that your father doesn't have any problems with popOS 😊
How dare you call it old, it is a Toshiba Tecra from 2011. Don't you know Japanese have longer lifespan than other nations 😜
It was a high end laptop for its time (2cores 4threads @ 2.8GHz + 8GB RAM). We only replaced its HDD with a 240GB SATA3 SSD.
Problems I had with PopOS, Ubuntu, Elementary, Manjaro, Linux Mint & Debian on that laptop was that they would freeze and turn CPU into a room heater. Everything would freeze, even audio played at the time would stay on loop.
@murtezayesil haha, okey, let's call it mature😜
Okey, my problem is that the boot partition is too small, and old kernels are not removed automatically and have to be done manually which is annoying. And the latest update failed and apt broke.
Sounds like apt botched at some point. I recommend installing LTS build on a clean drive if you can. It sounds like something was going weird from the beginning.
After the installation apply updates and restart.
It could also be cosmic radiation flipping the a critical bit.
@annasara I'm happy with arch, but it obviously requires a lot of tinkering to keep it alive. It depends a lot on what you use your laptop for, how much time you want to spend on maintenance, and of course personal preference. I have used a lot of stuff and the most satisfied I've been is with arch.
@annasara Well Fedora obviously since I'm a RHEL fanboy these last 8 years.
But in the end only you can say what works best for you.
@annasara try #fedora workstation. I have been using it for years and I think it has sane defaults and a great community.
If you require specific Ubuntu/Debian or Arch packages you could use #distrobox (which you can of course use on most other distros).
If you want to experience (and learn) a new approach to Linux distros whilst using #flatpaks, #containers and #toolbx, then try Fedora #Silverblue (which I use). Silverblue is an image base "immutable" OS with easy rollbacks and upgrades.
@annasara I've had issues on pop, but also on many others so I'm using Kinoite (the KDE version of Silverblue) and it's been pretty good so far and purports to be harder to break, which is a big plus.
@annasara the new Fedora is great for general purpose. They also have Fedora Design suite distro for creative folks.
@annasara Jag kör Fedora på min gamla PC-laptop. Gillar Fedora som dist överlag även om den senaste är lite väl buggig fortfarande.
@annasara keep PopOS for now. Decide if you are a tweaker.
I am a tweaker, I find issues with all OS and distros.
That being said, I use Fedora 36 (flavor: Workstation == Gnome)
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